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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
浸入影片制造的气氛并融汇对历史的认知，大致能体会到:经历了“不久前”的两次世界大战，整个欧洲与我们一样满目疮痍、哀鸿遍野，如坠地狱般的记忆使得今天的欧洲人对战争高度警惕，宁可生活窘迫一些，宁可看上去很傻，也要全力推动自己的政府阻止他们认为非正义的一方。
这么严肃的一件事情，整的像小孩过家家似的。
当历史英耽看很好嗑。喜欢这类大变局前夕的电影。不过不同意片尾的文字，美化了。
紧张的令人窒息的电影。应该学习一下这样的作品。
故事其实讲得没有很好。啊可是保罗好帅！ 张伯伦挺不容易，绥靖政策到现在还在挨骂呢。
故事依托于真实的历史，头尾也就不会有什么惊喜。在规定范围内，尽量发挥，已经是撑满了张力。顺便洗白了张伯伦，也从另一个侧面刻画了希特勒。
看完很悲伤，比《法比安》更悲伤
爬梯开了百年了，还真是一点没变。竟然有点感动着。
忍辱负重张伯伦……要这么拍也不是不行，但拍得真没说服力🌚
唯一露怯的就是希特勒的描写，演员的因素特别大。在该有张力的地方演员没有演出强迫感，使得对手的紧张显得有点莫名其妙。找不到特型演员，至少找个气场强的吧……希特勒的压迫感还没有护卫队的队长强。
平庸，绥靖政策和年轻人的争取，回过头来看年轻人是对的，拍的却显得张伯伦赢了。一切都不现实，行为表现的太显眼，一看就露馅，外交会议如此乱走也是不可能的。张伯伦情报来源如此薄弱就补签协议，小外交官接近希特勒竟然不用搜身？
对这个电影的好感更多来自于求知欲的满足，从来不对二战感兴趣，以往的了解都来自于影音资料。在还原历史的基础上，凸显了几个人物，历史既视感很强。两位小人物的性格直接影射了英国的保守与德国的激进。小人物的努力与首相的选择做出对比，深感政治真是无上的脑力游戏。
片头开始 忍不住想 两次大战怎么会如此密集地发生在这样的地方。这些年轻人如何进入战争 带着信念 不再回来。
我们不能选择自己生活的时代，我们唯一能选择的就是如何回应。哈哈，演员颜值不错，养眼。
难得好片，我们只是无法选择生活的年代，英德新生代两帅比演得真好。
作为商业片本片尚可以一看，至少矛盾冲突激烈，节奏紧凑不拖泥带水，特别是慕尼黑会谈上的一些桥段很有谍战韵味，英格兰的青年才俊和德国的热血青年真的很燃，但作为历史片来说本片可以说是大大的拉跨，不但洗白张伯伦没有说服力，就连基本的政治观都带偏了。张伯伦法拉第的绥靖政策就像希特勒是全民选举的结果一样，是欧洲人民所谓的民主自由选择的道路，惧战厌战和自卫心理才是希特勒蚕食欧洲成功的基础。所谓西方大国战略永远是牺牲小国以换取自身的利益和安全，所以看到片尾打出来的字幕显示慕尼黑协让英国争取了备战时间就感觉非常恶心了，洗白张伯伦无非就是洗白西方国家的失败，张伯伦的错误是全欧洲人的错误，他没有背锅也没有被冤枉，本片只不过是在为历史上的人为错误找个冠冕堂皇的理由而已，这样的历史片比毒教材有过之而无不及！
歌相当好听。2022-4-27 00:21:04
且不说对张伯伦的描绘，看时恰俄乌战争刚起，而每一个年轻人的命运因战争而失去了控制
影片结束的字幕把电影的格局拉低了。读过电影梗概以后我还在问自己为啥要看这么一部片子，其实细想，人类应该每年都得出几部二战题材的电影，直到下次世界大战之后才会停下吧
是我想拉国政猛男来看了并讨论的题材
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