The subject of Danièle Huillet and Jean-Marie Straub’s Der Tod des Empedokles (The Death of Empedocles, 1987) is the Greek pre-Socratic philosopher Empedocles (c. 490 BC – 430 BC), who lived in the Greek colony of Agrigentum in Sicily. His theories are mentioned in several of Plato’s dialogues. He maintained that all matter is made up of four irreducible elements: water, earth, air and fire. A mystic and a poet, he is considered to be the founder of classical rhetoric. He is also thought to be the last Greek philosopher to write in verse; two fragments of his works survive: Katharmoi (Purifications) and Peri Phuseôs (On Nature). An advocate of democracy, he came into conflict with his fellow citizens of Agrigentum and, as result, was banished with his young disciple, Pausanius. When he was asked to return, he preferred to commit suicide by throwing himself into the active volcano at Mount Aetna.
The German writer Friedrich Hölderlin wrote two versions of Der Tod des Empedokles in 1798 and 1800, and a final third version in 1820, all three ultimately unfinished. They were conceived as five-act tragedies and all three differ in plot. According to Michael Hamburger, Hölderlin’s English-language translator,
the main reason why Hölderlin finished no version of the play must be that he remained too closely identified with Empedocles, at the very period in his life when his own view of the poet as philosopher, prophet and priest – and as tragic hero – was subject to perpetual crisis and re-examination.
Huillet-Straub’s The Death of Empedocles is based on Hölderlin’s first version (the longest of the three), whereas Black Sin is based on the third version.
永远不要和魔鬼做交易 有时候没有希望 我们能活得更好
比较平庸，拍得很努力，但是介于类型片和反类型之间，弄得结果有点问题。
绥靖主义，很小就学到的这一词汇，现在才知道这就等同于“要和平不要战争”
决定人类历史走向的风云时刻，两位高材生想要逆天改命，但最终无法阻挡历史的车轮滚滚向前。深洗张伯伦的影片，我基本上快信了他的曲线救国哈哈，这和我学的历史书不太一样呦~
We don't choose the times we live in.
作为历史上的事情，又多了一点的了解，慕尼黑协定的签订，为后来二战中能够击败德国做出了一点贡献，这是值得大家去了解的，至于张伯伦签订的协议也是无奈之举，当时的德国确实太强大了，我们能够看到以前的故事也是非常的不错了。
平庸，绥靖政策和年轻人的争取，回过头来看年轻人是对的，拍的却显得张伯伦赢了。一切都不现实，行为表现的太显眼，一看就露馅，外交会议如此乱走也是不可能的。张伯伦情报来源如此薄弱就补签协议，小外交官接近希特勒竟然不用搜身？
影片对原著有删减之处，也有增加之处。张伯伦有自己的难处，他想维持和平，又误信了希特勒的承诺，没看清希特勒的谎言。他用自己的名誉的败坏为英国争取了一年的准备期，没有这一年，敦刻尔克的撤退也许就会失败了，更别说后面的空战。杰瑞米艾恩斯演得真好啊，两位男主演的也不错，但影片没有原著描写的那么惊险，原著写得我觉得就比较平淡了，所以电影没有原著好看。
好基友的惺惺相惜令人动容，大时代下个人是那样渺小。元首的选角太失败了，是营养不良么？两人交换情报是不是太明目张胆了，非要在人多嘴杂的酒吧？
张伯伦的功与过通过两个小人物的热血鲁莽的政治行动又被审视了一次
Jannis也太帅了，上一次看到他还是科里尼案里的纳粹，果然德国演员👍
毕竟大家都知道…希特勒是个神经病，用什么办法，目的都是一样的
比较平庸，拍得很努力，但是介于类型片和反类型之间，弄得结果有点问题。
Haha，绥靖政策而已最后也不至于说成是换来了胜利吧，除了结尾强行升华之外其他都还不错，画面蛮有质感的但是剧情有些太平铺直叙了。荞麦这张脸就是无比适合演电影，Jannis 也太帅了，他的眼睛会讲话。
在战争面前，个人的力量有时候显得很无力甚至很无能，尽管他们拼出了浑身解数。比如被人诟病的张伯伦，还有那两个不起眼的小人物。电影从一个全新的角度再现了二战来临前的少为人知的故事背后，很精彩。
我们不能选择自己生活的时代，我们唯一的选择就是如何回应。
德国重名地方似乎不少 电影里提到的Möhringen有谁知道是哪里吗？差点激动地以为是斯图加特的那个……
来看铁叔演张伯伦，节奏把握还行，有兴趣拜读原作。
7 历史永远比想象的更具体，也更现实，更无情，片中呈现的政治博弈还是偏戏剧性。guarding angel 很美。二战真是一个非常非常值得写的总母题，对于一二战间隙的和平争取，服务于错误的高尚事业的迷茫（《长日将尽》），战争与代际以及个人成长的绑定及其反思（《浮世画家》）。狂热地支持一项事业并不惜代价，巅峰就是战争。想读读《张伯伦传》了，是否真是 to buy time at the expense of one's own reputation
战争一直都没有结束
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