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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
好像看了2次都没看下去，等哪天再继续看第三次
四十分钟弃（刘在明出现处）等有好字幕再续吧
选题特别好。目的正义和手段正义纠结。政客恰恰又是在两者之间摇摆的特殊人群。没有理想和情怀做不了政客，只能做造王者，没有卑劣的手段，也当不了政客，毕竟在污泥谭里打滚，没点偏方无法立足。
没想到讲政治的片子结尾可以这么温暖。
李室长很出彩诶，卞成贤拍得总让我觉得像在看同人2333
两个理想主义者的失败，一个信念的背叛与崩塌，一个理想被现实打败，可耻的懦弱的背叛者，导致理想的溃败，🥚理想者的脊梁一直坚挺着。也许这不是政治，而是童话。
民众如愤怒的公牛，只会冲向挥舞的红旗，而谁是旗手他们根本不在乎。影子不过是道出了选举的真相，所谓的民煮也只是一场选举游戏而已。为了正义的目的不得不用卑鄙的手段，不愿弄脏双手者就难以实现目的。一部道出选举本质的影片，打破了关于现代民煮的幻像。
其实，他们本来心里想的就是一码事，只不过有人要说出来，有人要做出来。
严重喜欢男主薛景求，严重不喜男配李善均……
卑劣的理想主义者的哀歌，理想的实现只能是血泪吗？挺喜欢电影的诠释的，甚至还是很温情，画面色调和剪切也很高级。字幕组目前比较欠妥，观影还是比较遗憾。
流水线，走到哪一步观众都有预判，zz是拼谁更敢脏的，这部电影给了很表层易懂的诠释。南韩电影爱升华，不升华都会更好，权力斗争哪有bromance呢。薛神戏好，带动了所有能接住他戏的男二演技都是质的飞跃。
过于电影手法，起承转合都太电影了。流水线作品，缺少情绪。
我想说：这些人精能肆意妄为地欺骗民众、大谈政治，却看不清自己。徐都能无所不用其极地去追求自己内心的“理想”了，却不愿认可、不愿加入执政党一派，诚然推倒“独裁”这是多么荣耀的理想追求呀，但其实只要经济繁荣、能让百姓平安喜乐也就够了，有机会借这平台为百姓谋福祉也是好的。金都靠着徐爬到这高度了，却还坚持着“大义”而不认可徐的方式，所以输了
7分的影片。对韩国的选举制度不太了解，有些地方没太看明白，但争夺党内总统候选人那一场太精彩了，把政治和人心的反复以及利益高于立场表现得淋漓尽致。最后的选举结果也说明地图炮真是在哪都管用，不仅是国内。那些帮忙选举的工作者都好拼，跋山涉水拜访选民，做各种准备工作就不说了，还要学着演戏甚至被打得鼻青脸肿头破血流。只可惜薛景求扮演的政治家有点过于理想主义和过分追求原则啦，结果还没过河就先自断一臂自己把桥给拆了。政治本来就是肮脏的游戏，如果连这点都不明白怎么去获胜呢。韩国真是被北边的共产主义搞怕了。头一次知道韩国也下象棋的。
我觉得是挺有意思的一部政治电影，选举黑皮书。关于选举里那些不择手段、你争我夺的部分挺精彩的，不足就是没必要搞那个亦师亦友、理念不同这种老套梗，明明有人物原型，涉及到感情那些戏真的是有点子画蛇添足的意味。以及我真的觉得薛景求简直就是韩国普遍流行的高潮式演技派里出淤泥而不染的一股清流，演技细腻到毫无痕迹，李善均也是不错滴。就是为了在一部韩影里没有捶胸顿足我都觉得可以给四颗星，何况政治部分还挺波谲云诡呢。（192）
韩国政治家都是专业的演说家、优秀的表演家、野心的操纵家，如果背后再有个高智商的影子策划家，那么这一场场的选举终将成为没有硝烟的战场。而且战火还是相当激烈的！李善均的音色依然充满磁性，好听到爆！因为两位优秀的男主，相比《南山部长》，更喜欢这部！
2.5 “政治商人”的恶毒手段是一种利益最大化的方式，凡是利益必有人推敲和经营。韩国上世纪几十年的政治转盘不就是在这样的动力下前进的吗？正义、民主、理想等高贵的词语不过是车轮的装饰，而泥水总会溅脏它们。
“但我喜欢你站在灯光下的样子”
格调、立意，故事性与思想性都能兼顾。就拍摄技术上，他们的特写对人物皮肤的处理，光影的应用，显得质感十足。
这部电影来源于真实事件，但它是一部虚构作品。
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