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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
哈哈哈，之前看宣传的“cage 自己演自己”，我还以为是类似传记片呢。没想到居然是悬疑搞笑特工电影哈哈。很不错了 👍
试图用温情去包裹苦难，丝毫没有想着去批判，实在有些平庸。“谢谢你出生”这样的话怎么能说得出口。
终究是韩味很足，嫁接在是枝裕和的日式温情上还是显得怪怪的，但更大的问题是人物及相互关系设计的潦草，对婴儿箱与背后体制问题的挖掘也浅尝辄止。尽管也不乏洗车、摩天轮这样是枝裕和式的亮点，终究难以为观众构建完整的共情曲线，也使得最后的结尾完全沦为理想化的童话故事。
我想说纯粹出于坏而去犯罪的反社会人格毕竟还是少数，这几个边缘人各有各的不幸和苦衷我可以理解，但真的过于美好了。现实中卖过很多孩子的掮客道德水平这么高吗？东洙也是被抛弃过的，他没想过随便把孩子卖给别人比让孩子待在机构更危险吗？尚贤更不用说了，为了还债。用孩子的一生来换钱的人可能有温情的一面，但不可能来的如此轻易和莫名其妙。
为啥我感觉这片十分无聊？一点也看不进去。女人跟着人贩子一起找下家，过程中分享了各自经历，培养了感情的故事。 唯一一场还有点味道的是当第一对夫妻想买孩子，男的因为嫌弃孩子眉毛而想分期付款，还批评了几句。结果被女人狂怼“自己都长得獐头鼠目的还批评孩子长相”。
不可避免地把这部电影和《小偷家族》进行比较，同样是关注社会底层边缘人群拥抱取暖，一个离异一个妓女两个孤儿，在卖子的路途上感情越来越深，被助者和施助者依然形成了一组背叛与情感的矛盾体，他们在两位警察的视角下，呈现出了人与人相处最真实的情感。
还挺很是枝裕和，但感觉爱不起来，加上与我自己相悖的生育观，像是一场脱离社会的童话。但又感觉到对人类一直抱有的爱意，唯一落泪的地方是在黑暗中，说“谢谢你出生”的那一段，但不是母亲对孩子的那句，而是对身边的大人，在非自愿来到这个社会上的，辛苦生存着的人类，依旧对其他人抱有善意，去爱别人的人类，谢谢你们的出生。
本来以为是成为约翰马尔科维奇，实际上是成为帕丁顿熊。。。那俩cia用力也太猛了。。不喜欢，不过凯奇喜欢就行
还是公路片啊 还是父母跟孩子之间那些绕不过去的破事 很是枝裕和
宋康昊慈母般的憨笑，把裴斗娜都感化了。这趟孩子转运之旅，犹如细水长流，点点滴滴都是爱。是枝裕和，啥时候也能来中国拍一部呀?
淡得仿佛是喝完10杯白开水以后的第11杯，没有泪点、没有隐喻，立了很多flag以为主角团至少要死两个人，最后就这么平淡结束，是不是有点可惜了宋康昊裴斗娜……作为我看的第一部是枝裕和，好事是以后看他的其他电影会被对比得更好，坏事是我不想再看是枝裕和了。
天空中摇晃的摩天轮和关灯后幽暗的房间又让我泪崩了，不知道为什么看完很想摸摸自己的头，说一声：谢谢你的出生啊。
这个概念无疑是好的
凯奇翻身之作，但是又没完全翻过来，凯奇还是那个凯奇，观众却已经不是当初那批观众了。
凯奇翻身之作，但是又没完全翻过来，凯奇还是那个凯奇，观众却已经不是当初那批观众了。
Full of narcissistic cliché shit. But Paddington 2 is really good though.
一位叫做凯奇的中年大叔过气演员写给自己的情书，难得将中年危机拍得这么好玩儿，过程如此欢乐，充满自黑和黑色幽默，让懂的观众不断会心微笑或开怀大笑，结局还是不能免俗地回归到漂亮国家庭至上主义的主流价值观的大团圆结局上，个人觉得既然踏上了让凯奇自己演自己，还有个年轻版的虚拟自己跟自己不断对话，整部影片还可以玩得在“飞”一点，脑洞还可以再大一点，自嘲和反讽还可以再辛辣一点。总之算是近期难得一见的一部构思颇有创意、也充满致敬情怀的欢乐片。
cage：我还完钱了！我家庭和解了！我爱上一个他！哇喔
剧本的情节和对话像刚到美国留学托福不到100分的学生写的。
75cannes首映/中庸的故事，与我相悖的生养观，一无是处的女演员，是枝裕和的复杂与细腻全都丢失了，很多设计（eg摩天轮的运用、火车灯光）太平平无奇，刁亦男都比他有创意，导演老啦。另，还是认为男导演请慎重触碰女性题材（滨口龙介除外）。
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