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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
剥离原著看的话，还行吧，结构跟悬疑片似的，不停抖包袱我人都给抖蒙圈了，就没一个正常人，有病得治呐米娜桑！以及，剧组能不能让老公少抽几根烟…
驹子——小驹——小松。驹子无法为自己很活，在漫天大雪里等待别人的来到和离去，没有办法挽留。
叙事真的很文学，也就是高桥一生的声音能hold住大段旁白
這種古典小說改的電影真要去瞭解原著……不然大部分是沒看懂……
叶子的戏份太少了，开篇火车上那段黑黢黢的没拍好。
"穿过县界长长的隧道，便是雪国……”
看之前就想抽个时间看看原著，看完了还是这么想着
终于看了电影的#《雪国》#，凉丝丝的物哀与幽玄是有的，若论无边无涯的徒劳与虚无，感觉完全不及川端康成以及汉字川端文学之父叶渭渠的文字。刚搜了下，网上包括知乎、起点，全是付费阅读。被人买断，我也早已不属于我。拿自己做的终极版这样截图，应该可以的吧。
雪中的奈绪太美了太美了，益生菌这个嫖客演得……不大得劲儿。镜头很漂亮，奈绪的和服装扮更漂亮，漂亮到我都没关心旁白在念叨些啥。
驹子和叶子都实在美的模糊，这种前半段A视角，后半段B视角的戏，还是让《小姐》朴赞郁，《罗生门》黑泽明来拍吧。换视角有增加时长的嫌疑。
当我纠结看不看的时候我就知道有很大可能是烂片了，真的有点受不了A24这种故弄玄虚、弄点空灵音乐的所谓“恐怖片”了…不理解为什么这种片子一出来还热度这么高…
岛村会不会喜欢上叶子，岛村喜欢上了驹子，啊岛村会不会喜欢上叶子，岛村没有喜欢叶子
7080年代、德州、原教旨主义，这些关键词已足够拍个很好看的古早味（或改良的）惊悚片。这片开头不错，但中间开始整个跑偏，给人一种送分题都能答错之感。
不要浪费150分钟的时间【铃木大哥 一个西乡和近藤无缝切换的男人 斋藤一不错啦
穿过县界长长的隧道
没看过原著，男主表情有点出戏，从多个角度（男主、女主、女主日记）叙述故事的方式很有意思
5of10。本来还好，可以给个6到7的……但结尾加了一段，对原著大段空白内容的理解，搞得成了不伦不类的推理剧。等于是把原著的多种可能固定成了唯一解释，还是比较无聊的那种解释。奈绪的驹子只做到了原著中的洁净，灵动、果敢却一点没看出来；高桥的岛村嘛，私以为演的还行，就是造型别扭。
这一版，搞懂了驹子和行男，以及驹子和岛村。但是驹子和叶子，被高人指点了……川端康成笔下的人物关系，完全靠猜啊……
奈绪给人眼前一亮的感觉，益生菌逐渐姨化的面向略让人出戏 -- 说不上来的一种现代气息，和被雪封印的村落有一种格格不入。
文学晦涩的美感 很难通过影像具象化
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