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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
片子有想法，挺大胆，但在我这不算成功。挺喜欢摄影的质感，影像的情绪和氛围有了，但完全不会讲故事，节奏一塌糊涂。整体不算差，不过能拿数个重要奖项不敢苟同。
我觉得电影的基本还是要有一个好故事并把它讲好。
运用大量空镜头渲染气氛 尤其注意构图 很多镜头都有绘画的质感 对于战士的群像塑造可以说是成功的 作为一个“人” 他们在面对集体的利益和个人的生死时会有动摇 当然 最后任务的成功也是不令人意外的 结尾引人思考 P.S. 院线版一些镜头切换似乎有瑕玼
聊人物导演搬出巩俐算什么啊…以及老曹你当主持人真的好意思吗你不难受吗…真受不了国美这群人
能不能拍的和功勋差不多，别低级红高级黑。能不能别打着艺术电影干商业电影的事。
低饱和的画面把战争的压抑渲染得淋漓尽致。
但与电影主流文化看上去有些许“另类”
中途一度想要离场，看完以后不知道主角长啥样。毫无必要地全程使用黑白色调、昏暗灯光，剧本七零八落，人物无一立体。
人物形象感觉并不是非常立体吧……冗长的镜头和重复的枪战占据了大量时间，从诗意角度来说，1917带来的战争美学更为深刻。有点类似于摔炮和大型烟花的区别。疲劳的观影体验，没有带来深刻的情感共鸣。已经诗意ptsd了…
(ps：刚开始一个人在影院看这个片，冷气配电影贼阴森，后来来了个大哥在前排狂嚼爆米花，有人气多了。
就真的还好 影像上是有些有意思的想法 不过也不能指望主旋律有多少出格吧
虽然有很多问题，比如设计性并没有想象中那么强，有一种浓浓的“滤镜”感；全片的影像基调并没有很好统一，段落之间存在一定割裂；人物、故事太简单，空有符号没有内在联系，想往诗意那个方向做又欠火候，主题模糊表述不清；以及画面亮度过分的暗，让人看的真的很累等等。但是，在这样的大环境下做出这种主旋律+风格化美学的尝试无疑是值得鼓励的；或者也没有那么多预设，不过是一次误打误撞罢了……
太黑了，我还近视，看起来更是分不出人在哪里。但对我来说，还是有点新鲜劲。
挺写实的拍法，开头很恐怖，人性表现的不错，很接地气
看得出是大影节最喜欢的风格了，对于人物心理的刻画很绝，区别于战狼系的燃炸爽，全程心都是被揪着拧着疼着，审美很高级，镜头直怼的时刻演员的微表情也都可以hold得住。中国美术学院对于“美”的拿捏还是很到位。姚安娜的方言说得不错，演得也没掉链子，不管是不是带资进组，这次交出的答卷肯定是合格的。
“我们都是自己人”也是挺讽刺的，只能说胜者为王吧。上面斗争的时候，苦的永远是老百姓。
新瓶装旧酒：用并不精致的（伪）风格化摄影和美术去包装一个老套的故事。剧情上学1917，视觉上学伊万的童年，但是1917的缺点全学了过去，老塔连皮毛都没学到。
有史以来第一部没看完就离场的电影 结束时间比计算晚了一小时
这些短评在干嘛 来团建的？当时很期待来着，结果剧本不知所云 映后语无伦次 口口声声说要做什么不一样的战争片 那映后还有访谈里为什么一边“生命的意志在于时代的信仰”一边看不起这个那个装大逼？主角的生命意志么没看出来 混沌的战争控诉么没感觉到 这两星就是为漂亮的画面打的 整个团队的立牌坊行为不仅体现在剧本上也体现在映后的言语中 建议没话说可以不说 没钱拍可以不拍 搞得故事讲不好 主旋律主题也蹭不上
5.31 杭州映后见面会场。画面色彩很美院风，剧情台词无力吐槽。优点很明显，独特的黑白水墨美学+恰到好处的摄影运镜；缺点也很明显，糟糕不堪的演技+毫无内容输出的剧本+突兀割裂的后期配音。PS：映后交流没见过这么喧宾夺主的，请部分美院学生不要在别的包场组团夸夸，请把发言机会还给我们。
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